Discussion:
C= WiFi Modems
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Garbare Mcculloch
2019-11-08 08:01:09 UTC
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Static
2019-11-08 15:18:34 UTC
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On 08 Nov 2019, Garbare Mcculloch said the following...

GM> I just purchaced a C64/1541 combo. I have it up and nothing to load.
GM> When yo purchase a WiFi modem, do they or can they send you a floppy
GM> with a term program on it?

I've never seen any offer actual floppies. At most a disk image containing a
term program for use with a sd2iec or similar adapter.
Andreas Kohlbach
2019-11-09 16:45:01 UTC
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I just purchaced a C64/1541 combo. I have it up and nothing to load. When yo
purchase a WiFi modem, do they or can they send you a floppy with a term
program on it?
For the C64 exist several terminal programs
<http://commodore.software/downloads/category/66-miscellaneous-terminal-programs>.

No idea how to connect to the internet. I think Youtube has videos for
that.
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Martin Brunner
2019-11-13 10:00:55 UTC
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I just purchaced a C64/1541 combo. I have it up and nothing to load. When yo
purchase a WiFi modem, do they or can they send you a floppy with a term
program on it?
Guess you might ask there. It will be the best option if they can add a disk
with a term programm. Otherwise maybe you can type a small programm into the
computer like you did with these computer magazines back then.
However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer other
software from BBS you can connect to.

There are also other future options like transferring a D64 directly from the
internet to your floppy drive, but they are not done yet.

However, something like the 1541-U still is the fastest and most comfortable
option to transfer D64 images from the internet to a C64.
Gary McCulloch
2019-11-13 06:09:33 UTC
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Wed 13-Nov-2019 11:00a
MB> However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer
MB> other
MB> software from BBS you can connect to.

This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the
software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you started. I
think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for downloading.

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Martin Brunner
2019-11-17 17:17:28 UTC
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Post by Gary McCulloch
Wed 13-Nov-2019 11:00a
MB> However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer
MB> other
MB> software from BBS you can connect to.
This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the
software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you started. I
think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for downloading.
This will work once you have the Term software. However it is not the fastest
and easiest solution of course.

It would be easier if someone writes a tool that does a direct D64 to Disk
Transfer. That should be possible but was not done yet.
Maybe you could keep the initial transfer program light enough so that everyone
can type this into his computer.
Martin Brunner
2019-12-10 00:23:07 UTC
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Post by Gary McCulloch
MB> However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to transfer
MB> other
MB> software from BBS you can connect to.
This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the
software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you started. I
think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for downloading.
I figured out that via commodoreserver.com you can use your modem to load
programms directly from the "cloud".
Once you have managed to connect and run the programm, you can load online disks
and files from Device #2.

The file V-1541 is just 13 Blocks, so you'd be able to get this to your computer
with a Checksummer/MSD (e.g. list typing).

However I had to connect to Commodoreserver.com with my modem tool (which is
about 60 Blocks), but I guess that is not necesary if you figure out how to get
a V-1541 driver.

BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to existing
threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.
J. Robertson
2019-12-16 19:26:58 UTC
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Post by Martin Brunner
BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to existing
threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.
Gary seems to be posting out from a BBS message base. I've been noticing
an increase in postings here from some BBS systems. Unfortunately, their
message base to Usenet newsgroup converter must be not configured
correctly.

For you BBS members who may not know, you're seeing/responding to posts
in the Usenet comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.

Jason
Gary McCulloch
2019-11-18 07:04:50 UTC
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I just order a RS-232 WiFi modem and a XU1541 for my C64/C128. They
are due in the first week of December. I will post my finding once I get them
and get to try them out.
Meanwhile I used WinVice and CCGMS to connect to Reign of Fire BBS.
Looks real nice for C64 callers in 40 columns. Hope to be calling with real
hardware soon.

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K-Guide
2019-12-09 07:18:34 UTC
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On Tue 10-Dec-2019 1:23a, Martin ***@3:770/3.0 said to Spitfire:
MB> BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to
MB> existing threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.

That seems strange as when they arive here (Future World II), Spitfire's
messages are threaded as expected, so not sure whats going on.

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Gary McCulloch
2019-12-09 17:31:34 UTC
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On Tue 10-Dec-2019 1:23a, Martin ***@3:770/3.0 said to Gary McCulloch:
MB> Gary McCulloch schrieb:
MB> > MB> However, once you have your Terminal is ready, you'd be able to
MB> transfer
MB> > MB> other
MB> > MB> software from BBS you can connect to.
MB> >
MB> > This is what I was thinking also. Get a Modem and then get the
MB> > software from BBSes. Just one Term program is needed to get you
MB> started. I
MB> > think I may start to seperate my files here for D64 and Raw for
MB> downloading.

MB> I figured out that via commodoreserver.com you can use your modem to load
MB> programms directly from the "cloud".
MB> Once you have managed to connect and run the programm, you can load online
MB> disks
MB> and files from Device #2.

MB> The file V-1541 is just 13 Blocks, so you'd be able to get this to your
MB> computer
MB> with a Checksummer/MSD (e.g. list typing).

MB> However I had to connect to Commodoreserver.com with my modem tool (which
MB> is
MB> about 60 Blocks), but I guess that is not necesary if you figure out how
MB> to get
MB> a V-1541 driver.

MB> BTW, please check your news reader. It is not referring your answers to
MB> existing
MB> threads, so every time you answer, you seem to open a new thread.

MB> --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
MB> * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway
MB> (3:770/3)

I ended up getting a XU1541 so I coppied CCGMS to floppy and now I can
call out on my C64.

As for my responces starting a new post. Are you sure its on my side?
I have seen my responces on other boards under the initial thread.

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Martin Brunner
2019-12-12 00:23:39 UTC
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Post by Gary McCulloch
I ended up getting a XU1541 so I coppied CCGMS to floppy and now I can
call out on my C64.
That is for sure a possibility, allthough I think an easy solution that comes
with a modem would be nice.
Post by Gary McCulloch
As for my responces starting a new post. Are you sure its on my side?
Yes. Your messages are missing the "references:"-tag in the header. So there is
no way news readers can connect your answers to other postings.

See here:
https://wesmorgan.blogspot.com/2012/07/understanding-email-headers-part-ii.html

The presence of In-Reply-To and References headers indicate that the message is
a reply to a previous message.
The References header makes "threaded mail reading" and per-discussion archival
possible.
Spitfire
2019-12-12 06:34:06 UTC
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On Thu 12-Dec-2019 1:23a, Martin ***@3:770/3.0 said to Spitfire:
MB> Yes. Your messages are missing the "references:"-tag in the header. So
MB> there is
MB> no way news readers can connect your answers to other postings.

Not to get off topic, but I brought up this issue in FIDOTEST echo. IU
am having no problems in there. Can you look for the AmiBinkD test post I
made and lets discuss this issue ther.

Meanwhile, for those CBM users wanting to use ther C64/128 and calling
a BBS with it. Check out my Origin. give it a call. The New Users login is
long, but well worth the time. Trust Me!

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Bucko
2019-12-16 07:10:19 UTC
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On Mon 16-Dec-2019 7:26p, J. ***@3:770/3.0 said to Martin Brunner:
JR> Martin Brunner wrote:

JR> Gary seems to be posting out from a BBS message base. I've been noticing
JR> an increase in postings here from some BBS systems. Unfortunately, their
JR> message base to Usenet newsgroup converter must be not configured
JR> correctly.

JR> For you BBS members who may not know, you're seeing/responding to posts
JR> in the Usenet comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.

JR> Jason

JR> --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
JR> * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway
JR> (3:770/3)

Actually, he is posting his messages on FidoNet, someone is crossposting the
messages from the Commodore Echo on FidoNet to the Usenet newsgroups...
Frank Linhares
2019-12-16 11:09:04 UTC
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Bu> Actually, he is posting his messages on FidoNet, someone is crossposting
Bu> the messages from the Commodore Echo on FidoNet to the Usenet

I have yet to cross any gate software that will allow usenet msgids to match
FTN style msgids in order to reference a message you are replying to.

I'm posting from a bbs to another user on a bbs via Fidonet. He will see that
it is a reply and everyone using usenet will see that it is just a message to
All.

It's annoying, I know, but it is what it is.

I have been working on updating the code of some software that gates between
fidonet and usenet. Problem is, someone else is already gating this echo. The
last thing I want to do is cause a whole bunch of dupes.

|15frank |08// |15netsurge
|07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness
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J. Robertson
2019-12-17 06:51:50 UTC
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Post by Frank Linhares
Bu> Actually, he is posting his messages on FidoNet, someone is crossposting
Bu> the messages from the Commodore Echo on FidoNet to the Usenet
Ah, ok, I was sort of close maybe. ;-) It's been a while before I've
been a user/co-sysop of a BBS so I don't remember all the message base
nuances of such things.
Post by Frank Linhares
It's annoying, I know, but it is what it is.
Well, just for us newsreader users, heh. I have to say though, it's
good to see the additional traffic in comp.sys.cbm as it's making
it more active then it has been for a while.

Jason
Rob Swindell
2019-12-16 11:12:50 UTC
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Gary McCulloch
2019-12-16 06:38:52 UTC
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On Mon 16-Dec-2019 7:26p, J. ***@3:770/3.0 said to Martin Brunner:
JR> Gary seems to be posting out from a BBS message base. I've been noticing
JR> an increase in postings here from some BBS systems. Unfortunately, their
JR> message base to Usenet newsgroup converter must be not configured
JR> correctly.

JR> For you BBS members who may not know, you're seeing/responding to posts
JR> in the Usenet comp.sys.cbm newsgroup.

JR> Jason

JR> --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
JR> * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway
JR> (3:770/3)

Hmmm... For myself, I thought this was the FidoNet CBM Echo. I did not
know they were linked together.

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Frank Linhares
2019-12-16 11:10:00 UTC
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GM> Hmmm... For myself, I thought this was the FidoNet CBM Echo. I
GM> did not know they were linked together.

It is both. Paul Haydon gates the two.

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K-Guide
2019-12-16 19:00:56 UTC
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On Tue 17-Dec-2019 12:09a, Frank ***@1:229/101.0 said to Bucko:
FL> I have been working on updating the code of some software that gates
FL> between fidonet and usenet. Problem is, someone else is already gating
FL> this echo.

FL> The last thing I want to do is cause a whole bunch of dupes.

I am the developer for C-Net Amiga BBS and that is what Gary is posting from.
As part of the C-Net software there is a tosser for FTN. Perhaps, I can format
something in the FTN packet that will not cause problems with FTN, but will
allow news readers to pickup the messages as responses.

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Frank Linhares
2019-12-17 01:55:52 UTC
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K-> I am the developer for C-Net Amiga BBS and that is what Gary is posting
K-> from. As part of the C-Net software there is a tosser for FTN. Perhaps,
K-> I can format something in the FTN packet that will not cause problems
K-> with FTN, but will allow news readers to pickup the messages as
K-> responses.

That would work if you were gating the echo, but Paul is the one who gates it
and he is using Soupgate which is the culprit here.

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Frank Linhares
2019-12-17 01:55:00 UTC
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RS> Synchronet's NewsLink module seems to handle these situations just fine.

I stand corrected. I was referring to the older standalone gate software like
soupgate and gigo.

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Rob Swindell
2019-12-16 23:50:43 UTC
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Frank Linhares
2019-12-17 07:10:35 UTC
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On Tuesday December 17, 2019, Rob Swindell said to Frank Linhares...

RS> Nah, just gott use the X-Apparently-To or X-Comment-To header fields.
Thanks for that. I have updated Fidogate to use those. Now to find a usenet
group I can use to test it.

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Gary McCulloch
2019-12-17 04:27:00 UTC
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So, lets get back on topic. Who has a C64 and a WiFi modem? What
boards do you call? What term program do you use?

Mine came with some pre-set speed dial boards. I did a ATDS0, ADTS1
etc and was connected to some boards.

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K-Guide
2019-12-17 04:22:05 UTC
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On Tue 17-Dec-2019 2:55p, Frank ***@1:229/101.0 said to K-Guide:
FL> That would work if you were gating the echo, but Paul is the one who gates
FL> it and he is using Soupgate which is the culprit here.

I figured that was the case, but was hoping I could slip something into the
packets that would traverse FTN and then get picked up by the either the
newsgroup or gate software that would allow the response to be linked properly.

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Frank Linhares
2019-12-18 08:34:48 UTC
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K-> I figured that was the case, but was hoping I could slip something into
K-> the packets that would traverse FTN and then get picked up by the either
K-> the newsgroup or gate software that would allow the response to be
K-> linked properly.

On a side note, is C-Net ready for public consumption yet? I've been running
Zeus on my 4000 for quite a while now and I think it is time for a change. I
like what has been happening with the development and would love to run it.

I am also spinning up my old 64 board and I understand that you are working
on C-Net for the 64 as well.

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Bucko
2019-12-17 05:13:04 UTC
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On Tue 17-Dec-2019 12:09a, Frank ***@1:229/101.0 said to Bucko:
FL> I have yet to cross any gate software that will allow usenet msgids to
FL> match
FL> FTN style msgids in order to reference a message you are replying to.

FL> I'm posting from a bbs to another user on a bbs via Fidonet. He will see
FL> that
FL> it is a reply and everyone using usenet will see that it is just a message
FL> to
FL> All.

FL> It's annoying, I know, but it is what it is.

FL> I have been working on updating the code of some software that gates
FL> between
FL> fidonet and usenet. Problem is, someone else is already gating this echo.
FL> The
FL> last thing I want to do is cause a whole bunch of dupes.

Actually, I was replying to someone who said they were reading these messages
on usenet. I like you am replying to this message from a BBS on Fido...

Go figure?!?!

:)
Garbare Mcculloch
2019-12-18 06:18:52 UTC
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K-Guide
2019-12-18 09:58:15 UTC
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On Wed 18-Dec-2019 9:34p, Frank ***@1:229/101.0 said to K-Guide:
FL> On a side note, is C-Net ready for public consumption yet? I've been
FL> running Zeus on my 4000 for quite a while now and I think it is time for
FL> a change. I like what has been happening with the development and would
FL> love to run it.

C-Net Amiga BBS has a solid release version and there is a new release comming
real soon. So if wanna run C-Net Amiga just login to Future World II BBS and
create an account and leave me feedback about it.

Future World II BBS
Telnet: fw2.cnetbbs.net Port: 6800

FL> I am also spinning up my old 64 board and I understand that you are
FL> working on C-Net for the 64 as well.

Yes but that was put on hold until I can get this latest C-Net Amiga Release
out. Then I will pick that back up.

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